TALKING SURREAL
BOLLOCKS
A CONVERSATION WITH EDDIE IZZARD
INTERVIEW BY MEREK COOPER (thanks Spoot)
Eddie Izzard is a strange one. No, he really is. Principally a stand-up comedian,
Eddie rose to fame in his native Britain with an act consisting of endearingly
amateurish streams of consciousness which seemed to have been made up on the spot.
Eddie, himself, describes his act as “talking surreal bollocks with added bollocks
on top.” The way Eddie effortlessly skips around from topic to topic with no logical
connections in-between will make you feel that you could get up on stage and do
this too. But don’t be fooled: Izzard’s ambling and befuddled demeanor hides a
sharp, if slightly off-kilter, wit which is truly unique to him. He only has two
voice impressions, James Mason and Sean Connery, and he gives these voices to
almost every character, real or fictional, that should happen to drop into his
wildly erratic focus. Any other comedian would be crucified for this, but in IzzardWorld
this strict vocal dichotomy just plain fits. He also has a penchant for performing
in French and, despite being nowhere near fluent, this didn’t stop him embarking
on an all-French language tour of France which went down like a lead balloon tied
to the wedding tackle of a rather large African elephant. If this is not strange
enough, Eddie also came out as an “Action Transvestite” at the beginning of his
career in the early nineties. Weird? No. He just likes to wear women’s clothes
whenever he feels like it, and that includes makeup too. It’s not that he’s gay
or even awaiting a sex change, it’s just his way of expressing the more feminine
aspects of his heterosexual sexuality. Got that? Good.
Recent years have seen Izzard branch out and step away from his stand-up roots.
Even though he’s here in North America to promote Epitaph’s DVD release of his
1998 stand up show Dress to Kill, he’s eager to talk about his burgeoning film
career. He’s played disposable henchman (Mystery Men and The Avengers), a transvestite
soldier (All the Queen’s Men), a film producer (Shadow of the Vampire) and most
recently Charlie Chaplin (The Cat's Meow). I caught up with him on the phone from
New York, where he was in the middle of a two-week promotional marathon.
DiSCORDER: Hi, how are you?
Eddie Izzard: Good, thank you. I’m out here in New York, promoting this DVD that’s
coming out.
How do people respond to you in North America. Do they tend to concentrate on
the fact that you sometimes wear women’s clothes?
Yeah, it’s still early days here, so they will do that thing of going on and on
about it. Maybe a third or a half of the interview might be on that because it’s
kind of odd and interesting to the interviewer. And then they move on to my work
which, thankfully, they seem to like. They gave Dress to Kill two Emmys which
is very bizarre, and it’s been played on HBO for a year now. It keeps coming back
up, so it’s all going great. The next tour I’m gonna be play 15,000 seaters all
over America.
You famously did some gigs totally in French. Will you be touring Europe again
and trying again with the foreign language comedy?
Well, if you look on the Dress to Kill DVD it’s got the French show on there,
so it shows you where I’m up to in regards to learning French. Hopefully, I’ll
be touring France again next year.
I’ve heard you’re learning German too, so you can perform a German language show.
Is this true?
Yeah, I’m gonna do German as well.
I remember seeing a documentary of you doing the French show and it was almost
painful to watch. Hasn’t this experience scared you off?
No, that’s the whole thing, you start off and it’s scary and so you go back in,
Robert the Bruce-like, to try and try again and then slowly you get better. I'm
always crap when I start. But it was also that I had cameras there. I set it up
wrong. And there were a number of things going on that I wasn’t happy with for
the first ever one. But I just thought, “fuck it, I‘ll do it,” and I was crap.
But you know if you start crap you can’t get any worse.
You’ve been putting stand up on the back burner recently and doing more dramatic
acting roles?
Yeah, because I’ve been pushing to do dramatic work for… well that’s what I wanted
to do in the first place. And… err… you know this Cat’s Meow film with Peter Bogdanovich.
Which I saw last night. A great performance by you.
Oh great. Thank you very much. I was really pleased with what I did because my
early stuff was not so good because it takes me time to learn technique. I’ve
got a slow learning curve, but once I get the hang of it I go, “ahh, this is what
I was supposed to do” and I pick it up eventually.
Yeah, I’ve been watching some of you’re early stuff, Mystery Men for instance,
and your performance as Charlie Chaplin in The Cat's Meow is a great improvement
on that. Not that I want to slag you off or anything.
Well, absolutely do. It’s better to have the truth be told because, y’know, in
Mystery Men maybe there was one scene that I kinda liked, and some of Circus.
Shadow of the Vampire people seemed to like even though I wasn’t really happy
with what I did.
In Shadow of the Vampire, I was totally happy with what you did, I just thought
the film itself didn’t work.
Oh right, I liked the film. But they did change it in the editing and made it
into a different film. They obviously had some problems tinkering around trying
to get it to work. It’s quite an unusual film and I do just disappear from the
story. People said “Yeah, where did you go?” I just went to the loo. When to the
loo and never came back. I actually wrote a letter. There’s actually a letter
to try and explain where I’ve gone. But they never used it.
In The Cat's Meow, you play Charlie Chaplin. Did you study lots of his old footage?
No, not really, because I’d already studied him in ’89. Actually, when it was
the hundredth anniversary of his birth, I’d read all about him because I couldn’t
work out why people laughed at him and I didn’t find him funny. I eventually found
that if you watch him in a cinema—that’s what the films are designed for, so that’s
what I did. I saw City Lights, and found that funny. I saw some of his earlier
shorts and I found them funny. And I read his biography and I found it fascinating.
I always thought of his a having a bad reputation for inseminating young girls
but in this film he was kind of the hero.
It’s interesting, because in one way you could look at him as the hero. But other
people have written and said: “Oh no, he was very ruthless in his trying to get
kids into bed. A one track mind.”
It didn’t seem to come across like that, I thought you made him quite a sympathetic
character.
Well I’m not judging. I just realized that all the stuff in his films had nothing
to do with this film. It was just two days he spent on a boat trying to get laid.
And err… I think he’d just learned to how to flirt, in actual fact. Because I
think that was his problem; that’s why he kept getting off with 16 year-olds—because
he didn’t know how to talk to women. He didn’t know how to talk them into bed.
I read in interviews that like Chaplin you finally learned to flirt rather late
in life.
Yeah, I was always bad at flirting. I lost the ability to flirt when I was a teenager.
I was better at flirting when I was young—well, actually, I didn’t even think
about flirting; I just used to play kiss chase with girls. And when I left school
I lost all that and only got it back in my twenties.